Comments on: The Death of Web 2.0? C’mon… http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/ Web 2.0. It's all about what YOU want! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:20:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: blonde20 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3411 blonde20 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:09:13 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3411 To all those who agree with Phillip's words, I must say:Where have you been in the last couple of years? Web 2.0 is live and kickin' in MySpace, in facebook, and elsewhere. To all those who agree with Phillip’s words, I must say:Where have you been in the last couple of years? Web 2.0 is live and kickin’ in MySpace, in facebook, and elsewhere.

]]> By: Maor David http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3408 Maor David Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:06:57 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3408 I think that Web 2.0 never born. It's only marketing issue - all of the Web 2.0 and more. I agree with Phlipp's words. I think that Web 2.0 never born. It’s only marketing issue – all of the Web 2.0 and more.
I agree with Phlipp’s words.

]]> By: blonde20 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3390 blonde20 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:35:46 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3390 Doug: Thanks for the mention on your blog. Walter: I agree. Web 2.0 still has enormous growth potential around the world. Jeff: Very good point indeed. Web 2.0 is not only about user generated content. It is about all the me tools which you mentioned - widgets, rss feeds, etc., and also of course, Ajax. From a business prospective it is hard as you say to measure such things as successful conversations with your audience and brand awareness. However, as I wrote in my previous post to this one, relationships are the new metric for ROI and only businesses that understand this will be able to successfully market their product in the future. Thanks for the interesting article. As I do see the amazing potential of the mobile internet industry, I will point out that it is the best Web 2.0 applications which will continue to be offered in the future. Andrea: You're right. Web 2.0 is just a tag for the phenomenon we are seeing now, and yet its core roots are here to stay even if the name of the tag will be changed in the future. Chris: Web 2.0 has opened the conversation channel between the consumer and the company. Now consumers are holding the power more than ever over how they want their products/applications to work. Doug:

Thanks for the mention on your blog.

Walter:

I agree. Web 2.0 still has enormous growth potential around the world.

Jeff:

Very good point indeed. Web 2.0 is not only about user generated content. It is about all the me tools which you mentioned – widgets, rss feeds, etc., and also of course, Ajax.
From a business prospective it is hard as you say to measure such things as successful conversations with your audience and brand awareness. However, as I wrote in my previous post to this one, relationships are the new metric for ROI and only businesses that understand this will be able to successfully market their product in the future.
Thanks for the interesting article. As I do see the amazing potential of the mobile internet industry, I will point out that it is the best Web 2.0 applications which will continue to be offered in the future.

Andrea:
You’re right. Web 2.0 is just a tag for the phenomenon we are seeing now, and yet its core roots are here to stay even if the name of the tag will be changed in the future.

Chris:

Web 2.0 has opened the conversation channel between the consumer and the company. Now consumers are holding the power more than ever over how they want their products/applications to work.

]]> By: Enterprise 2.0 » Blog Archive » Web 2.0 was never born? What? http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3381 Enterprise 2.0 » Blog Archive » Web 2.0 was never born? What? Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:23:21 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3381 [...] Phillip Rhodes Comment on “The Death of Web 2.0? C?mon?” [...] [...] Phillip Rhodes Comment on “The Death of Web 2.0? C?mon?” [...]

]]> By: Chris Clark http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3380 Chris Clark Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:20:44 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3380 I see the distinct difference in Web 2.0 being short, up till now, brief conversation with a bottom up approach. Where I saw pre-Web 2.0 being about polished broadcast messaging from a top-down approach. I think Web 2.0 allows consumers to interact with companies at levels of the organization not otherwise possible several years ago. For example, we now have executives that blog and consumers who read and comment on their thoughts. There have been numerous examples where consumers have made a difference by gaining access to executive management through blogs. In a pre-Web 2.0 world, this would not have been possible. The ability for consumers to interact at different levels of an organization and make a difference is gaining popularity. I think you will see that companies of the future are not about one size fits all, but more about product customization and personalization for consumers. I see the distinct difference in Web 2.0 being short, up till now, brief conversation with a bottom up approach. Where I saw pre-Web 2.0 being about polished broadcast messaging from a top-down approach. I think Web 2.0 allows consumers to interact with companies at levels of the organization not otherwise possible several years ago. For example, we now have executives that blog and consumers who read and comment on their thoughts. There have been numerous examples where consumers have made a difference by gaining access to executive management through blogs. In a pre-Web 2.0 world, this would not have been possible. The ability for consumers to interact at different levels of an organization and make a difference is gaining popularity. I think you will see that companies of the future are not about one size fits all, but more about product customization and personalization for consumers.

]]> By: Andrea Vascellari http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3378 Andrea Vascellari Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:16:49 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3378 Hello Ayelet, Web 2.0 is just the beginning...I think that 2.0 is one of the first evolution stages of something that will keep growing in future. I see 'web 2.0' as a tag for the period we are living in. Which tag will we give to the next evolution stage?! Web 3.0? or maybe we will start to feel more the influence of the 'semantic web'? To early to say... Nice post, Andrea Hello Ayelet,

Web 2.0 is just the beginning…I think that 2.0 is one of the first evolution stages of something that will keep growing in future.

I see ‘web 2.0′ as a tag for the period we are living in.

Which tag will we give to the next evolution stage?! Web 3.0? or maybe we will start to feel more the influence of the ’semantic web’? To early to say…

Nice post,

Andrea

]]> By: Jeff Katz http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3376 Jeff Katz Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:39:09 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3376 Great topic Ayelet I have a different perspective on the what/where we are on the Web x.x stage. Many people view Web 2.0 as the time were user-generated content and social networking rule the world. While this is true, it is only partially true. You also have to look at this in context with the different underling technologies that allow us to communicate in so many different ways. Just look at this page on your site - I see MyBlogLog, Flicker, Twitter, RSS subscription and Technorati - oh yeah - powered by WordPress. All are different "me tools" built on various platforms. Google Maps or Kayak.com (a very cool travel website) would not be possible without the use of AJAX or other rich internet applications. Also from a business prospective, how do you get a handle on this? How do you measure the effectiveness of visitors engaging with your organization with so many different channels? This is a challenge that I see very frequently with my clients, as I am sure in many ways you do as well. From a date-driven view (something I tend to do), this is a good post to relate to, http://blog.webanalyticsdemystified.com/weblog/2007/09/web-analytics-20-i-am-more-worried-about-web-analytics-30.html Great topic Ayelet

I have a different perspective on the what/where we are on the Web x.x stage. Many people view Web 2.0 as the time were user-generated content and social networking rule the world. While this is true, it is only partially true.

You also have to look at this in context with the different underling technologies that allow us to communicate in so many different ways. Just look at this page on your site – I see MyBlogLog, Flicker, Twitter, RSS subscription and Technorati – oh yeah – powered by WordPress. All are different “me tools” built on various platforms. Google Maps or Kayak.com (a very cool travel website) would not be possible without the use of AJAX or other rich internet applications.

Also from a business prospective, how do you get a handle on this? How do you measure the effectiveness of visitors engaging with your organization with so many different channels? This is a challenge that I see very frequently with my clients, as I am sure in many ways you do as well.

From a date-driven view (something I tend to do), this is a good post to relate to,

http://blog.webanalyticsdemystified.com/weblog/2007/09/web-analytics-20-i-am-more-worried-about-web-analytics-30.html

]]> By: Walter http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3375 Walter Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:17:57 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3375 Without doubt we are seeing a transformational shift online from most other mediums. Most likely a little past tip of iceberg but still enormous growth to come; we are talking about the globe here! Without doubt we are seeing a transformational shift online from most other mediums. Most likely a little past tip of iceberg but still enormous growth to come; we are talking about the globe here!

]]> By: Social Media Top 5: Bryper and Web 2.0 both found alive, Ontario CA still smells like cow poop « Gischeleman’s Blog http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3374 Social Media Top 5: Bryper and Web 2.0 both found alive, Ontario CA still smells like cow poop « Gischeleman’s Blog Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:52:50 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3374 [...] Death of Web 2.0 deemed premature. Web 2.0 can’t die until irrational exuberance has killed our rational thought (all of it), VCs, start pouring on the gasoline, and the Net-arati have produced a new Industry Standard and a new Jason Calacanis [...] [...] Death of Web 2.0 deemed premature. Web 2.0 can’t die until irrational exuberance has killed our rational thought (all of it), VCs, start pouring on the gasoline, and the Net-arati have produced a new Industry Standard and a new Jason Calacanis [...]

]]> By: blonde20 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3372 blonde20 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:14:39 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3372 Phillip: I see your point regarding the web simply evolving and yet we still need such terms as Web 1.0, Web 2.0 in order to define different periods of web development. The same “meaningless” argument could be made regarding giving different names to different periods in history, as history is also always simply evolving. And yet we define different periods of history by different terms. Phillip:

I see your point regarding the web simply evolving and yet we still need such terms as Web 1.0, Web 2.0 in order to define different periods of web development. The same “meaningless” argument could be made regarding giving different names to different periods in history, as history is also always simply evolving. And yet we define different periods of history by different terms.

]]> By: Phillip Rhodes http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/comment-page-1/#comment-3370 Phillip Rhodes Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:14:11 +0000 http://www.blonde2dot0.com/blog/2007/09/27/the-death-of-web-20-cmon/#comment-3370 Web 2.0 will never die, because it was never born. There is just The Web, all of this Web 2.x, Web 3.x, blah, blah etc. is just a lot of hot-air and vacuous buzzwords. The Web has been evolving since it was created and it is what it is at any given point in time. The definition of "Web 2.0" is about a meaningful as the definition of the term "hair metal," which is to say "absolutely meaningless." Web 2.0 will never die, because it was never born. There is just The Web, all of this Web 2.x, Web 3.x, blah, blah etc. is just a lot of hot-air and vacuous buzzwords. The Web has been evolving since it was created and it is what it is at any given point in time.

The definition of “Web 2.0″ is about a meaningful as the definition of the term “hair metal,” which is to say “absolutely meaningless.”

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